7 posts tagged “node series”
(Fourth in a series.)
The North Node: Your Soul Messenger.
The Family Karmic Inheritance. Yeah, I relate to that.
My grandmother's's North Node and my mother's Sun sign are conjunct--basically the same--hinting that my
mother may have partially acted out some of the deep longings of her mother, which was to find finanacial and social security. My mother married well and didn't have to work---however her ambitions were thwarted in many ways, and she didn't achieve serenity in her life. Her North Node was in independent Aries close to the Sun sign of her grand-daughter. And to add to the connections, we see her South Node (where the Soul has come from) at the same sign and degree as my Sun, strongly suggesting a past life connection between us. And most striking of all was to see that my grandmother's Sun sign of Taurus is the same degree as my North Node, hinting that part of my karmic growth is to find the serenity that alluded both my mother and grandmother.
(Third in a series.)
I found this writeup on a talk by Michael Lutin. Man, I wish I could go to such (or afford it, 'cause $ka-ching$), because it sounds very interesting. This talks about how he constructed and wrote the book.
Checking the comments, I laughed at this one:
I was talking to a friend yesterday who is in a major crisis over whether to build her life around supporting her husband in his demanding profession or whether she should insist on her own individuality. I took a quick look at their charts. His NNode is in the 10th house, hers is smack dab on the Descendant, conjunct Venus.
Sounds like a perfect match- she's SUPPOSED to support him and give up her individuality, so if she wants to, the universe supports it. (Even if the idea of it makes me shudder. Then again, Libra North Node pretty much equates to seventh house, you're supposed to give up your individuality anyway. Uck. I think with my placement, I'm supposed to give it up to friends, though. Yeah, like THAT's worked well in the past.)
Also, he said that he mentions toward the back of the book that using his house system with the real Ascendant and not the solar chart produces an even more revealing picture of South Node issues. This is the one that we don't want to tell anybody, he said.
Hm, I know I looked at my Ascendant ones awhile back, but damned if I can remember what the results of that were. Must check. I suspect it had similar results, though.
Apparently, Michael Lutin has no idea of what to make of someone who has cross-aspects (1st Libra, 7th Aries). Me either. Other than "well, I guess you're gonna get a really big headache." Or act like me and my mother.
jm, s/he (I'm not sure which) of the aforementioned node series, had more to say about that in the comments here.
The SN in the 7th, no matter what sign, is about independence. Learning to leave relationships and the truth that you can do without them when the time comes. An eye on the exit sign is always a good idea. The SN in Aries 7th is major issues about dominance. This can work both ways as to who dominates, but ultimately the inequity doesn't work. One is forced to follow the other.
The NN in Libra is seeking fair and balanced equal relationships, first of all with the self(1st house). The result will be equal relationships with others you couldn't even have imagined. Dependency is everything here. Once you establish the center of the realtionship in yourself, then a natural dependency can follow. Until then, there is a squirm to get free of others. Selfishness, me first, etc. are all neceassary with the NN in the 1st. The problem with the reverse nodes like these is that selfishness was a detriment in the past, and has to be reworked, but not abandoned. Controlled and balanced. The constant power struggles in relationships are the way to relearn. Dominance is still required but only over the self with these nodes.
There is also a lesson in gentle and civilized behavior. And probably most of all...identity. So separation and return to togetherness are always a must. Learning a flow between these two, without extremes, panic, end of world, clinging, pushing away hard, etc.
Okay, I am definitely enjoying scoping out this blog. More over here:
I don't recall that he actually uses the word "North Node." He has devised an interesting method of numbering, depending on the year you were born, and then, based on that number, he tells you what issues you need to work on. Anyone who knows astrology will immediately recognize that number 3 involves communications style, number 4 is family issues, etc. Moreover, if you are familiar with nodes, you will realize that he treats these areas as though they were the South Node, and then tells you what you need to pour your energy into, which is the North Node.
So, JM, what he told me is that I need I to get out of the house and go to work! That no matter how much I want to stay in the comfort and security of seclusion, that my destiny is to get out there and be seen and heard.
Haven't I heard that somewhere before?
Furthermore, he nailed a couple of personal issues right on the head, in a frank, straightforward way that knocked me out of my chair. I was stunned for two or three days.
He has this way of telling you to get off your butt and get to work - no sugar-coating or making nice - and yet somehow you're laughing. And you just know he's right.
As for his numbering system, I can't say whether it would work the same way for everyone as it did for me. Maybe it was just a coincidence that the number he came up with for me corresponds to my South Node. It certainly is no coincidence, however, that he writes in "node language." Anyone who knows nodes will recognize it immediately.
(Second in a series. My apologies for the formatting in this one, but Vox DOES NOT LET ME hand code format, and what I cut-and-pasted came out really funny no matter what the hell I did.)
Raging Universe is starting a nodes of the moon series.
Some say that we can integrate the two nodes and live a good life. Some say we must choose one or the other. I am of the opinion that we have to learn to relinquish the grip on the South Node. It is the most addictive spot in the psyche, and where we go whenever we are insecure, because it is so deeply familiar. Most people want to drag this node with them as they merrily go to the North for happiness, but I haven't seen it work this way. The reason I think we need to leave this point is because it requires no effort whatsoever to effect this behavior. It's entirely automatic. Habitual. It needs no more cultivation. No more energy. It will continue to act without our effort.
Until we can disengage from this habitual behavior, I think it is almost impossible to reach the full potential written in our charts. It IS virtually impossible to get there, as strong as the lure to the safe and familiar is. But the end is always disappointing at the South Node. There is no growth. Nothing new. An empty safety that isolates and shortchanges. Satisfaction is missing. So the South often dominates and keeps us in the ancient self that wants to move ahead to the unknown.
In a sense, I think the North promises another birth. The inability to see what's ahead is the fear.If people have planets of their own conjunct the South it is extremely difficult. One great antidote is relationships that conjunct the North.
And invariably, people will back away from others with heavy North attributes or contacts for fear of giving up the addiction. It is amazing to see the consistency of all of this. How we cling to our discomfort.
If you get in one with planets on the South, trouble is ahead. It might take a minute, but it will come. The thing is, is sometimes that lesson is necessary.
North node in Libra:The South Node in Aries is a preoccupation with independence or dominance, resulting in loneliness that often seems impossible to erase, no matter how many relationships the natives get into and out of, or even stay in. There is a fear of exposing weakness and they push people away, only to find themselves wanting to be with them again. They want companionship but they undermine the commitment habitually. There is too much preoccupation with the self.
Me-ism. The problem with SN Aries is the reflection of themselves they see everywhere. Always about Me. But they've seen enough. They know themselves. And they know it's time to curtail this self-absorption and look at others as they appear and not as mirrors, or verifications of their own identities. They often come back to this lonely look at the self, unfulfilled. Even when they act like they are fascinated with the other, deep down they often are still looking at the Me. People sense it and separations result, sending the SN back to isolation. The Exit. The SN Aries comes in, often bounding, but keeps a steady eye on the exit sign. Their independence is threatened by the indication of real relationship and the entrapment is the horror. Racing ahead too fast, and leaving them in the dust can also be a practice of this nodeholder.
Deep down they know they are kind and lovable, but often they end up appearing otherwise, or are on the receiving end of otherwise, to assure the escape back to the self. One foot already out the door when the shoe drops.
Anger and Conflict. Often a lot of it. It can manifest in many ways, or not overtly at all. Anger was often the tone in the family while growing up, even if unexpressed, and sometimes frustration with the selfish demands of a parent. Aries is the warrior and I think these people know the danger, but still respond to the battle cry, the excitement, even feeling they've battled enough. They would like to sheathe the sword. Fear of marriage.
More here.
The Libra NN is seeking the best in one-on-one relationship. They have innate talent for sharing with others, and have a genuine interest in what they are all about...likes, dislikes, quirks, habits, routines, favorite songs, fears, dreams, ....everything. Lasting companionship based on true reciprocity is the goal. People who are there for them. Because of the SN memory of aloneness, ideally they are ready, and the most willing to participate in this kind of partnership. Lovability. People adore them. No question, no conditions. They like them for who they are and sense their instinct for harmony. At first the SN goes along with it, but often the fear arises that the other will be gone, so the separation is initiated. Still the people love them and wait. Marriage and friendship. Often the SN Aries are embarrassed with the choices they've made and feel they will never find the right one. While others take it in stride, the NN in Libra sees a high stakes situation that can make or break the goodness of their lives. A great deal of pressure is on and often they will revert to their known solo selves to avoid the failures. Yet most I know still have the Aries trait of never giving up, and try again they do. Justice and fairplay. No one is more balanced in judgement and willing to play by the rules established together than this node. The age old memory of extreme competition and winning every time simply adds energy to the game if working right, as the enjoyment and polite exercise of strategy win over personal victory. Often exhausted from playing the adversary, they are the fairest of the fair in resolving conflict and seeing that everyone gets a good deal. They are experts at mediation, and helping others sort out their interpersonal difficulties, when the SN isn't preoccupied with running from its own entanglements.
Grace, beauty, and the sharing of aesthetics. NN Libras love enjoying the finer things in life with their partners and friends. A piano concert, the ballet, art shows, or a walk in a flowered park are heaven to this nodeholder. They love discussing the shared experience and hearing the opinions and insights of the participants. A play or movie with a light supper afterwords to go back through the plot and character portrayal, coming to a conclusion as to the meaning of the drama, is a delight no one enjoys more. Fire to air. NN Libras are learning the pleasures of the intellect and are forgoing some of the fiery over-excitement of the SN Aries. Crisis, bombast, adrenalin, emergency and all the accompanying sensations are gladly given up for the peaceful meanderings of thoughts shared with intelligent people. Interdependence. One of the most challenging aspects of the SN Aries is allowing the natural dependence of a complete relationship to balance their already well established self-sufficiency. Their biggest fear is that they will lose autonomy, their survival might be at stake in some way, not realizing that the independence will actually be reinforced. They will no longer have to work so hard to maintain it. They often don't get far enough into the experience to discover this, but once they do, they know that the independence often stays intact while the loneliness diminishes. Their well established knowledge of caring for themselves is often handed over to the partner, giving strength to both, the opposite of the weakness they fear will be the exchange. A lessening of dominance and leadership, allowing others to make decisions, proves to be a greater relief than they could have imagined, as the power is shared and cooperation comes easily. Patience, sensitivity, and consideration prove to be most enjoyable after all. You-ism turning to you-and-me-ism.By far the most glorious trait of the NN in Libra is the ability to bring out the potential in others. The memory of strength and skilled survival are passed to those lucky enough to receive it when the energy is fully shared. In this consolidation, the NN Libra gets company, appreciation, loyalty, and even a probability of a future together. Projects in duo, including a fulfilling life with a companion, are in the stars for this person, when his Libran kindness is embraced. The lessons learned in Aries are brought to the North Node as the base of strength that will never be lost, and the balancing qualities of Libra are learned through new experience.
I've had relationships where I got involved with the "wrong" person, which, upon ending only seemed to reinforce my South Node/Aries tendancies towards independence and self-centeredness.
(I'm going to be doing a series (of sorts) on nodes. This is the first in the series.)
I've been meaning to do some sort of review of SunShines on here, but of course forgot about it. For now, let's just leave it as, YOU MUST GO FUCKING BUY IT, PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD. It should be one of the top books someone should get on astrology. (Some day I should do a post on that.) He has it structured based on a combination of sun sign (or rising sign) and your nodes, and you're given a speciflc number entry to check on yourself, and then are recommended to read two chapters in particular in the back of the book about what you do and what you should be doing.
Instead, I wrote some entries on ye olde other journal on this topic (mainly because I was doing a daily posting schedule that month there and needed some freaking writing fodder), mainly related to my reactions to the "Independence" chapter in the book. In general, it was both scary accurate and deeply depressing for me.
I had a very depressing conversation with my mother on the phone Thursday night. It pretty much started out with the usual: "Whyyyyyy don't you like to talk on the phone? I love talking on the phone. I want us to be Oprah and Gayle and talk on the phone EVERY SINGLE DAY. Why don't you check your phone messages often?" (Because you leave me 12 at a time, dammit, and now I don't want to check them AT ALL when I have to wade through all that to see if anyone else fucking called.) "Why do you even have a phone? Why won't you turn your phone on so I can call you? Talk to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!"
*sigh*
I said that I don't like talking on the phone, I don't like being interrupted by phone calls, I have a hard time listening to conversations without visuals attached. So, no, I don't want to be Oprah and Gayle. (And frankly, when I did talk to her Every Single Day for OVER A YEAR, I was incredibly miserable, and perked up noticeably once I cut her phone calls. There is only so much bitching about her work I can listen to after awhile.)
This led into a big ol' lecture out of her about how I should really want to ask about someone's day, and how I'm self-centered, and I really need to choose people and put them first and live my life for them instead of myself.
And let me just say, it was pretty well fucking dead on the same kinds of stuff about me from SunShines. I guess this is the kind of thing you get when your mother has the exact same opposites nodes as you. I bug and bug her to LEARN SOME FREAKING INDEPENDENCE ALREADY, and she ignores it and bitches at me to start looking for other people to take care of, y'know, like HER.
It was a kick upside the head in general, though. And yet, I still want to say, "But when other people are letting you know that you suck all of the time, why the hell should I be seeking them out? Why the hell should other people be my only source of joy and happiness if all I hear about is how I suck?" I wouldn't have those voices in my head if others hadn't installed them there.