24 posts tagged “north node”

That's a direct quote from SunShines...yup, another Libra North Node thing.

That quote occurred to me as I was reading Elsa's blog again. She dreads getting married. Not being married, GETTING married...the day itself. Why? 'Cause he's Catholic and Must Have Big Catholic Wedding.

Again, in SunShines there's a part in the "Independence" (Libra NN, really) chapter where he's all*, "Marriage would be a BIG development for you. You should probably marry Catholic because they will tie you down by your hair and MAKE YOU COMMIT and then you could never have sex again if you wanted to bail."

Yeah, I can't help but wonder what her node is now.

* note: not a direct quote, as I don't have my book on me at present. Just summarizin'.

So, I got to meet a local celebrity from my hometown the other day. It was great fun- he's known for having the blingiest house at Christmas you have ever seen, and I got to tour the house. Huzzah!

So as I'm reading his website later, he happened to mention his birthday (the day before mine! Wow, I know a lot of April 23rd birthdays), AND the place of birth and time!

Yeah, I had to look.

He's a double Taurus (shopping, shopping), with a Sag moon (like me, hah), and URANUS RISING! That just cracked me up big time. He's in a very hierarchical profession/religion, but has the big ol' Sign of the Weirdo right front and center. With a north node in Leo (flashy!) in the fourth house...yes, he has a flashy house. (Interestingly enough, Chiron is conjunct the NN. I wonder what that means to him to do a flashy house with that aspect.) He's also a Venus Saturn person...a Catholic deacon sworn to celibacy.

Amusingly enough, my mother told him the next day that I'd seen we had nearby birthdays and he was all, "Taurus! Stubborn, likes to shop..." Believe me, if you've seen his house, you KNOW that. He must be really fun to go shopping with. Huh, I should meet the man more often. :)

Obama family analysis.

Not my chart, but similar.

"Michele, with several planets in Leo, your Ascendant in Scorpio, and Mars in Taurus on the Descendant, you are a strong fixed-sign person. I am, too, and so I can sympathize with where you are right now.

The fixed signs - Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, and Aquarius - can be difficult to work with, because they are stubborn and immovable. The flip side is that they are stable, reliable, and durable. We can carry burdens that would break others. Of course, that can mean we get a heavier load in life, too.

Leo and Aquarius are being impacted heavily right now due to a series of eclipses in these two signs that began this past February and will run until August 2009. To a lesser degree, Scorpio and Taurus also are being impacted (along with Scorpio and Taurus Rising). Since you are a Rising Scorpio, you are getting hit doubly hard. I don’t doubt that you are tired. I am, too! But hang in there, because you are being offered an opportunity to transform, grow, and evolve. Unfortunately, this never happens without a certain amount of pain.

Simultaneously with the eclipses, we are experiencing an opposition of Saturn and Uranus. These two patterns don’t seem to be related, but they are linked in an indirect way. I bring this up, because Saturn currently is moving through your tenth house of career and is transiting your lunar North Node in Virgo. The North Node often indicates our “mission” in life, so I feel fairly sure that you are about to find it.

Your challenge, as I see it, is that you have a lot of “self-oriented” Leo energy in your chart, while your North Node in Virgo indicates that your life’s work is about service to others. You will have to find a balance that allows you to fully express who you are while also serving humanity."

Mainly because I can't stand to read any more doom n' gloom on the astrology sites either.

So, found some other stuff to mention.

Even though I am sick of the political stuff too, I did think the synastry of the McCains was interesting.

Because of their 18-year age difference, they both have the North Node in Capricorn, South Node in Cancer. The synastry aspects to the lunar nodes show a deep connection, with her Venus-Jupiter in Gemini forming an out-of-sign conjunction with his South Node in Cancer. This aspect may show how her wealth allows them to live comfortably with several homes around the country. Her Mars conjoins his North Node in Capricorn, providing active support for his need to serve his country and its traditions.

Chiron is another active element in their synastry, with her Venus conjunct his Chiron in Gemini and his Moon conjunct her Chiron in Capricorn. The question here is whether these two sympathetic personal planets have provided a comfort level allowing for the healing of old wounds. Chiron often shows us where we feel most insecure, and John has a square between natal Chiron and Venus, reflecting doubts about being loveable. Cindy’s Chiron is closely trine her Sun, suggesting that she experienced positive reinforcement of her self-esteem growing up, thus making it likely she has been able to help John sort through his issues in this area.

They both have Juno in Leo, with Cindy’s Pluto in Leo closely conjoining them. Their idea of an ideal marriage and household is thus very similar, and this particular aspect has no doubt stood them in good stead with all the entertaining in support of John’s political career over the years. With Pluto adding his two cents, discussions about jealously and possessive behaviors had to have played a role behind the scenes.

I always find it interesting when there are node connections, especially since in this case it's mutual and they both have a connection to the nodes of the other.

A synastry question, post-relationship: "Considering that Venus, Mars and the Moon are involved in our conjunctions, as well as the signs Libra and Scorpio, all related to relationships, I wonder about the nature of the connection between Dan and I. What happens to the connections in the charts now that we are no longer in a relationship? Also, how is it possible for us to have such strong astrological connections but for us to not have sustained a relationship? I don’t think we will get back together but it is a remote possibility. I cannot put to rest that we have these astrological connections and yet we don’t have a connection through being in relationship."

I've always wondered about that too.

Speaking to the first side of this discussion — a conventional theory on chart comparison — when you’re looking for solid synastry, you want contact between the Sun, the Moon and the angles if possible. By angles, I mean the ascendant and/or the descendant. These are the three things we tend to feel the most, and which — for good or ill — suggest that we have karma to explore, create or resolve with the person. As a fourth possible thing to search, the lunar nodes can indicate a significant spiritual connection. And that, basically, is what you’re looking for.

Conjunctions count for the most. Carl Jung, who was an astrologer as well as a psychiatrist, cast the chart of every client he worked with. He discovered the phenomenon of Sun/Moon/ascendant in the charts of married people. Your Sun conjunct someone’s Moon (even using a fairly wide orb) speaks of a connection that could develop. Someone’s Sun conjunct the other person’s ascendant or descendant would be viable as well, and reveal some points of harmony between the two people, since again, we really feel that Sun, Moon and rising sign. But you have to watch for the exceptions as much as you do the rules.

Usually, I find synastry to be better at figuring out why a relationship didn’t work out than predicting whether one will. Generally what happens is that there will be a lot of connections that look good, but then for example there may be a harsh connection between someone’s Mars and the other person’s Moon. This might trigger the other person, giving an image of them feeling insecure or unstable, or something like that.

As with any chart review, you’re going to find things that seem harmonious and argue for a productive experience, and things that are not so harmonious and argue for a more challenging connection. You need to weigh and balance the factors — and reality check in the relationship.

But here is the thing. We who are curious about relationships need to reinvent them. We need to make room for the karma piece, which needs a safe forum to work out. We need to make room for the monogamous piece, that offers total devotion. We need to embrace the slut who says yes because that’s what she wants. And we need to embrace that virginal whore — the masturbator and selflover, whether she be the one abandoned or the one indulging existence.

I don't like to talk too much on here (obviously, I'd rather quote other people!), but I thought I'd give an example of the life of a Venus Saturn person who is technically supposed to be learning how to partner and reach out to other people. In my experience, it just doesn't flipping WORK! I swear, every time I try, the universe smacks my nose with a newspaper and a big scream of NO!.

I have not been having a good time of it emotionally lately. Stuff keeps coming up, such as the big blowup that kicked off Teh Drama. Every time I try to reach out, either someone's too busy, ill, or caught up in their own drama.

• I have desperately wanted to talk to my shrink about this, but she got massively sick on my appointment day and wasn't able to reschedule. I am wondering if she'll be able to do it this week. And either way, next week is a no-go thanks to the fucking 4th of July.
• My mother is alternating between NEEDYNEEDYCLINGCLINGPOUTPOUT behavior and dumping me when a man is around to distract her.
• Friend A has houseguests over and is too busy to talk, and the second the houseguests leave she goes back to summer school and will still be too busy to talk.
  
• Friend B is having Boy Drama combined with Work Drama.
• Friend C has had another Tower-esque week and can barely even talk about the bad shit happening to her once in a while. Definitely not the time for me to say anything else other than to make sure everyone's still alive on her end.
  
• And the rest of my local friend group seems to have disappeared entirely for the moment. Where the heck are they?!
  

And I can't help but notice during the big blowup situation that when someone is on my side, it actually makes things WORSE on me. How tragic is that that in order for me to have an easier time of it, I have to have nobody whatsoever supporting me?

I'm sorry, universe, but if I'm supposed to be learning that lesson, shouldn't I be getting cookies rather than newspaper smackings every time I try to reach out?

What You Don't Want To Know About Yourself:

"However, as an astrologer and therapist, I find that most people simply don’t “hear” what their North Node is suggesting. It’s like a blind spot. They’re more likely to recognize their South Node because it’s their default pattern and represents both the gifts and liabilities they came into this life with. We know our gifts---and even most of our sins and failings, even if we don’t want to admit it. We know our South Node. But when confronted with the North Node sign and house and aspect patterns, there’s usually a silence in the conversation. The information is trying to settle in, but it feels unfamiliar, and almost---wrong. “No, that isn’t me,” I can almost hear my clients saying.

But it is. It’s the qualities, traits and areas of life that we are most unfamiliar with, and it’s the particular arenas of life we try to avoid. “ Must I really go there?” we ask. “Do I really need to be more that way?” they respond with a slight look of distaste. We have an innate antipathy to this region of life. Yet if we are to be truly whole and healthy, we would be wise to do as Carl Jung suggested: integrate the shadow---integrate the North Node and the whole Nodal story."

My question on nodes and synastry made it to Real Astrologers today. Woot! (I really need to do a writeup now that I have full astro-data for my mom...)

"awhile back I waded through a bunch of family birth dates to look for reversed nodes patterns. The most reversed nodes were between mother and child for some reason."

O RLY?!?! (Yes, I thought that.)

"Reversed nodes are not easy to live with, because the nodes represent a strong theme in our lives and in the case of reversed nodes, very simply put, you are going in opposite directions. Most often the child moved far away from the mother as soon as possible because of the irritation factor."

Makes sense. I have moved, but Not Far Enough, as many people point out. Moving farther away isn't really an option though (or at least, I can't afford a farther move). And really, for me it's the communication factor that drives me nuts more than the in-person, and the communication factor won't be negated by moving. Which is to say, she wants CONSTANT communication between us, and that's where I have the problem. I can deal with visiting fine, but the communication demands, no.

"With a planet or planets conjunct a node, they act to amplify the nodal energy. Even Venus, who has a reputation for being pleasant, can come off as cloying. Jan Spiller, in her book Cosmic Love, suggests the South Node person may feel a sense of indebtedness to the Venus person, who is inclined to be overly permissive in this instance. The Venus/North Node conjunction is about helping each other with self-worth issues."

Yes, I feel VERY INDEBTED to her. I'm her mother and her child and her spouse at this point in time, and all three mean that I have to take care of her. I'm shitty at it, but I can't abandon her.

"In the case of the North Node/Venus conjunction, finding a balance between being supportive and nurturing oneself may be easier to sort out, because we are usually more detached when it comes to the North Node. However, the South Node/Venus conjunction may take more tact to handle. If it were me, I’d opt for distance. Then, I’m a Libra and not fond of confrontation!
My mother’s North Node was in Libra conjunct my Moon/Neptune. In the end, I had to move out of town for several years to help separate my emotional baggage from hers. We were always close, but it was my choice to keep a measure of distance between us. Otherwise, I ended up feeling overwhelmed. Sometimes it’s what we need to do to preserve our sanity with nodal connections . . . maintain some distance."

*sigh* Yeah.

Being as I am obsess-o about (a) Saturn, (b) moon nodes, and (c) karmic signs in astrology, I am actually posting something politically related here:

"Hillary Clinton's chart shows that she has the planet Saturn making a very tight square to the nodes of the Moon.
The lunar nodes are not planets in the chart and don't carry any energy of the personality; they are like signposts that point us in the direction from our evolutionary past to our future. Tight aspects from a planet to the nodes of the Moon often indicate a karmic issue that an individual brings with them from a previous lifetime. Saturn, being the planet of order and governance, is an indicator that Clinton came into this existence with a predisposition to fear that she will never achieve her goals. This is exacerbated by the fact that she has four planets in intense and power-driven Scorpio which keep her locked into the past of her Scorpio South Node, and no planets in peace-loving and stable Taurus which is her destiny as shown by the North Node."

I have to say that if she's got a predisposition to fear that she will never achieve her goals, it's a reasonable fear. And quite likely.

In related news, sigh, John McCain is getting quite lucky when it comes to nodes himself.

A profile of Patrick and Lisa. Aww.

In synastry, Saturn is the planet we look to for determining durability in relationships. Patrick and Lisa have a set of Sun/Saturn aspects demonstrating how this works. Her Sun is trine his Saturn and his Sun is square her Saturn. They chose to marry (Saturn likes signed documents) rather than live together, and it obviously works for them. A couple more Saturn aspects in their synastry: her Saturn in Scorpio is conjunct his Mars in Scorpio and his Saturn in Libra is square her Venus in Cancer. These aspects both fall in the stabilizing category and show up with great frequency between couples in enduring marriages.

Jupiter graces this pair with a sense of fun and optimism shown by a matched set of Mars/Jupiter squares (a little over the top but who cares) and a powerful conjunction between her Jupiter/Pluto and his Sun/South Node/Pluto in Leo. The second synastry aspect was the first one that caught my eye. There is another nodal aspect - her Mars is conjunct his North Node - yes, her planets conjunct both ends of his nodal axis! Aspects to the lunar nodes in synastry indicate karmic forces at work.