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From Sasstrology:Every Friday at work, feel restless. I'm not content to sit at my desk. I feel the need to walk around, do something, get out of the office. I can't seem to focus on work, or accomplish much throughout the day. My weekends are particularly exciting, but I just have the overwhelming feeling to get out as soon as possible on a Friday afternoon. What can I do to get over this?
I’ve been at my temp job for two weeks now, and I’m going stir-crazy. My responsibilities are Virgo to the extreme, and I can feel the negative aspects of Saturn’s transit through Virgo in full force: the burden of paying attention to detail; the boredom of attending to mundane, repetitive tasks. I want to break free and indulge my creative side (transiting Uranus in Pisces), which I purportedly do through the blog. But to be frank, most of my sasstrological efforts have been put into fixing broken links; posting over 20 entries a week from our various authors; scaling and cropping images. I’ve written just two posts for the new site since it launched last Wednesday. So, this launch has been way more Saturn in Virgo than Uranus in Pisces for me. I’ve had the occasional “ah hah!” moment when I think of a good idea for a post, but mostly I’m just working out kinks on the back end.
The dark side of Saturn is having the joy sucked out of life. I can actually derive pleasure from my Virgo Rising: I love to edit, for example. But recently, most Virgo responsibilities feel like a chore, and I am not savoring the moment, whether I am washing dishes or coding in HTML.
Ideally, Saturn opposite Uranus manifests as the practical application of ingenuity. The Virgo-Pisces polarity brings into it the ability to clearly express one’s imaginative flights. I’d like to think that, with this new site, I am integrating both my Virgo Ascendant and Pisces Sun. But Saturn’s transit through my First House is a heavy presence, and although I have plenty of Uranian flashes, they all need to pass the Saturn test. Can it be implemented? Will doing this increase my bottom line?
Working hard would be so much easier if I did not feel a simultaneous need to be free and do my own thing. But that’s precisely what this Saturn-Uranus opposition is about. Ideally, I’d work hard only doing my own thing – and running Sasstrology is part of how I plan to accomplish that. But now I have to go back to my tunnel and keep digging until the light breaks through.
As for me, I am trying to work on my NaNo novel right now and it is like dredging through sludge. My characters have a problem they don't know how to solve ("how do you stop an accelerating man?"), the answer is something I did NOT figure out before writing. I really don't know what to say or how to do it, so I am piddling about for the last two days, falling behind in word count and all I can have them do is have a shit-shooting brainstorming session. I am attempting to look up the science and not finding much I can apply to my situation. It is very literally a case of PRACTICALITY MUST BE ENFORCED...
Argh.
Well, maybe it's all Pluto's fault.
So I'm reading this interview with Kevin Smith and...
I hear ya, bud. I am jealous of those people who are all easy come (har), easy go, easy come again.
"So I started thinking about that and friends doing it -- and one of my favorite topics of discussion with friends is the difference between f**king and making love. Like the people who can just f*ck and move on, and the people like me who, like, once you f*ck somebody, you want to marry them. I've never had a one night stand in my life. First time I came to it, I wound up marrying the chick so it doesn't count. [Jason] Mewes, on the other hand, has f**ked more people than I will ever meet in my entire life. And whenever I talk to him about it, I don't get it -- he's like a one-timer; he hits it and quits it. I don't get it -- if you find a woman goodly enough to f*ck you, why wouldn't you call her the next day and try to do that again? And his view is, 'In your world, there's always someone goodly enough to f*ck. In my world, there's always someone else waiting to get plugged.' And I'm like, wow, what must that be like."
Anyway, this sounded like you-know-what, so I checked. And Kevin has a Venus-Pluto conjunction trine Saturn.
While you are standing in the light, busy dumping all your crap on to me, I can see you real good.
In contrast, you can’t see me at all because I am standing in the dark, covered in your shit.
Well, that sums it all up for me.
I hear that. Well, moving along with something in general, if not specifically the town I live in. (On my list of places to live, the town I am in is #3. That ain't bad. Especially since locations #2 and #1 are incredibly beyond expensive.)
But I do want to do...something. And I somehow absolutely cannot budge myself to do a damn thing. Oh, the joys of being doubly fixed. My poor lone Sag moon wants ouuuuuuuuut and the Taurus and Scorpio axis emphasis does not allow escape. I'm a chaos magnet, but in the last year and a half, my lightning-rod-ness has dwindled down to some degree. I'm used to lightning making decisions for me. And it seems like without being forced to because something blew up, I can't make myself do squat.
Then again, this could also be because I am also so sick of things exploding around me that I don't want to deliberately cause more unpleasant upset in my life. Then again, I'm unable to even go for PLEASANT upset.
So, what's the issue with this? Is it fixable?
Sometimes we have planetary events that clearly indicate a change is coming: for example, when transiting Uranus (radical change and innovation) crosses over the Midheaven/Nadir axis (cusp of the fourth house of home and tenth house of career). Twice a year or so transiting Mars will cross that point, stimulating the desire for some sort of change. But change is not always seen as just an event triggered by a planet; it is often the result of an activated Will that occurs after a longer-term cycle.
Yeah, so far this isn't panning out for me.
This client had what I like to call a "Mars Problem" in her chart, with Mars in the twelfth house, where it operates in the subconscious realms, and stressed by both Saturn (limitation and challenge) and Chiron (wounding and healing). Mars acts as the Will of our personal self; in many ways it is our Free Will. Mars is our desire nature; it shows how we go about getting what we want and keeping what we have and in that role it also shows how well we set boundaries and defend ourselves. When Mars is stressed in the chart we have difficulty in all of these areas and our Free Will loses its functionality as a result. Sometimes we can feel paralyzed, not knowing where to turn.
My Mars is hammered:
Mars Conjunct Midheaven
Sun Square Mars
Mars Square Ascendant
Mars Square Uranus
Moon Trine Mars
Mercury Trine Mars
Some good aspects, but enough hard ones in there probably drone that out. I can't help but think the Mars square Uranus might translate into "big changes = trouble for you." And the fact that it's on the MC and squared by the axis is not good either. Sheesh, and Saturn's not even involved in that.
In the case of my client, she was in a longer-term cycle of Uranus transiting through the tenth house which had caused her to leave her job and pursue a series of other opportunities. She didn't feel that any of them were right for her but judged herself for wanting yet another change. Because her Mars, her own inner direction of Free Will, was challenged in the birthchart it was difficult for her to feel safe in her choices.
We don't always get to exercise our free will, and we don't always get what we want as the Rolling Stones so aptly put it many years ago. Sometimes our individual will (Mars) is blocked by the gods in the form of Saturn (restrictions) or Pluto (transformation) and in those cases fate takes over and all we can do is surrender. But we still must exercise that free will or it will become atrophied and useless.
Exercising our free will and empowering our Mars is as easy as this: Ask yourself, what is it you WANT to have happen. And then DO IT!
*sigh*
Somehow JUST PICK AND DO IT!!!!!!!!! sounds a whole lot easier to say than to do. I can't help but think that if I make a choice and go after it, I'm just putting up the lightning rod and asking God to strike me down somehow. No wonder I can't do shit.
The upcoming solar eclipse will be landing on my MC (where the natal Mars is) on August 1. Hm. I wonder if that will help do...well, anything.
My recommendation is to take note of where you are obsessing about something or someone, or having someone obsessing about you – then stop feeding energy into that. And personal experience says that is HARD sometimes! However, unless we can shine some light in those areas and apply good old fashioned common sense, we will continue to beat our heads against the wall of those obsessions. Liz Greene has written some amazing information about Pluto in her book, “The Astrology of Fate”. Reading that was very helpful for me in identifying and reducing my obsessions to a manageable level. “Manageable” is the key as the darn things are not going to disappear and blow away. So all you high-minded sorts that would prefer to remain above all that . . . not going to happen and it will only make things worse.
Persephone's Ransom. (I don't think this is a permalink, so I'm gonna copy and paste a lot of this.)
Living in the Mother’s Shadow
Everyone’s got to get out on his or her own eventually, no matter how well-meaning mom or a maternal figure might be in trying to protect us.Betrayal by the Father
Sometimes, a father or father figure arranges circumstance for us that feels like a betrayal. This usually manifests as one of those “They believe they know what’s best for us” deals about which we get pretty miffed.The Necessity of Abduction
No one grows up if they never grow up.
A. What Happens if You’re Not Abducted
Life gets boring and you have to do abduct yourself to save yourself from wasting away in the least exciting kind of life you can imagine.
B. What Happens if You’re Abducted
Everything changes…forever. You’re more mature, whether you welcomed the circumstances that got you there or not.
Oh lord, this not abducted thing is a big issue for me right now....
Yeah, I hear that out of people ALLLLLLLLLL THE TIME.
What We’re Learning When We Play Persephone
We-as-Persephone are learning about maturity, both in what is perceived to be mature and how one goes about being mature. Other people’s opinions, hopes and dreams about the development of the courses of our lives cease to matter when we begin identifying as adult agents in charge of our own lives. Living a Persephone story means at times finding out that what others opine, hope and dream about and for us just won’t cut it, and we have to figure out how to strike out on our own.
What you want for yourself is highly likely at least moderately more exciting and interesting to you than what a protector figure could have in mind for you. But the real point is that your idea of yourself and your life, and what you’d like to do with each, is yours. We can persist in doing what the protector figures would for whatever reasons prefer we do, and yet we’re not then living our own lives.To Persephone’s Aid
So, then, with the Persephone chapters in our lives, we’re talking about becoming self-determining adults, or self-reliant in a new way or to a greater degree. For some of us it’s harder than for others, and when we see the harder kind of story being lived by someone, it’s important to let go of judgments we might have about where they should be and what they should be doing. Part of assisting anyone to reach new levels of maturity is in becoming grounded in a healthy understanding that sometimes the best help we can give others is to limit the assistance we offer either in type, range or availability.
Since Persephone stories are about self-determination and embracing new attitudes of self-responsibility and -reliance, we can sometimes wonder how to help someone get through a sticky Persephone story. We can watch people linger a few inches before taking much-needed steps into self-reliance and maturity, with that foot into the future hovering hovering hovering…and it can drive us nuts to watch them do what we think is waste time and energy by not moving into the kind of future they clearly would rather be living.
For me, it's in Aries 16, 6th house, conjunct Mercury/Eris and opposite Pluto (hah hah).
Persephone Astrologically
Houses
Where your Persephone (asteroid 399) falls is where this dialogue plays itself out. In what arena of life will (should) your abduction occur? What are you hoping to be initiated into so you can feel more real, alive and fulfilled? Where could you use a self-love kick in the pants into maturity? Check yours out by house, sign and aspect. The house will indicate the arena of life one part of you may tend to remain perpetually puerile, the part of life you may perceive you need someone else to abduct you into a rich, full and more relevant experience.
See, this to me is part of the problem. What ties me here, to my mother, is responsibility, duty, and service. Feeling like to some degree I am (and am supposed to be) "in charge" of her. That I am obligated to her. And don't forget that I got raised to serve, serve, serve her. I'm not good at it, mind you, but in my family, WOMEN SERVE. That's why you're here. I've never fit with this at all (my feminine planets are all hammered), but I feel like I should WANT to sacrifice myself because "I love you soooooooooo much." Because supposedly my mother would do that for me, right?
6th house- Responsibility, duty, service, analytical awareness and related action
(Her behavior of late isn't acting like that, mind you...)
Blech.
I don't see this as wanting to be initiated into responsibility. I have too much of this. I want to be abducted FROM it.
Not sure what to say to this. God knows I'm being more direct and assertive with her...it just doesn't get anywhere. Especially when she forgets or "forgets" the argument you had and then things go back to the way they were. I don't know what the hell it is- she never had a fabu memory, could be early Alzheimer's (we don't get it early in the family, but dementia is around big time in a few more decades), could just be "menopause brain" (which is what it currently gets chalked up to). But one way or another, the reset button sure gets a smackin'.
Signs
Your Persephone sign shows the method and motivation of this part of you. It’s the mode of being into which you might be waiting to be abducted and, if no one shows up, you’ll eventually see that you have to take responsibility for on your own.Aries- directness, assertiveness, protective, boldness, bravery
So mentally I'm merging with chaos...well, that's a constant :P
The last bit is aspects. Aspects to your Persephone tell of the dialogues in your psyche she’s engaged in with other energies in your consciousness. Conjunctions indicate merging, sextiles trigger and stimulate, squares apply friction and pressure needing release, trines support and boost, and oppositions confront and challenge to face-offs.
I'm amused that Persephone is opposite Pluto. Doesn't sound good for the love life, does it? Or maybe it's fitting, given that historical pairing. Or fitting that every time I have a boyfriend, I'm stuck in the middle between a mother/boyfriend faceoff.
Back to the astrology...um, yeah, that pretty much amounts to opposing sides and war. Oh, there's that Eris again. Hah hah. Sometimes astrology is so literal.
The Ceres-Persephone Dialogue
For kicks: Understanding the dialogue between your Ceres (asteroid 1)
I guess technically mine are square (Ceres is at 22 Cap, 3rd house). Oh, wait, that puts it at square Pluto too...ASTROLOGY IS SO LITERAL!
Not sure what to make of this part.
and Persephone will also shed light on how your internal wiring related to this story is configured. The statement that Ceres makes is one of protection of others at the expense of risking living a rich, full life. The statement that Persephone makes is of wanting to be launched into new ways of being, those that provide her with opportunities to function as her own agent and thereby live with and from a greater feeling of wholeness. Look at the symbolism of each asteroid in your natal chart to uncover a new level of dialogue between these two parts of you, even if they’re not in aspecting each other. Hint: Your Ceres is where you might look after others before yourself, and your Persephone is where you might hope someone else might show you how to become self-determined.
In astrology the asteroid Persephone is listed as being number 399 in the asteroid scale. Where she shows up in our natal chart can be a place we look at to see and discover for ourselves where we feel taken captive and where we feel we have not been allowed to be ourselves.
Persephone’s placement in our houses can show us where we are afraid to take charge, and afraid to assert ourselves. It is where we give our power away to others, or it was taken from us by force. It is where we ask others we consider more powerful than we are to make our decisions for us and take care of us. In essence it is where we hoodwink ourselves and allow ourselves to be taken underground.
Sixth House: we may not stand up for ourselves in the workplace;
Somehow this makes Pluto sound like the new Chiron....a planet of wounding.
Well, I've certainly done the numb thing.
"This is the area where you have a distorting wound and also a high calling; a destiny."12th House: When you’ve felt overwhelmed and burnt-out by the pain and suffering you’ve seen, you may have shut down or numbed out so as not to feel it. Yet by compassionately opening your heart to others now you heal yourself as well as them. You have the ability to touch people’s lives in an intimate inspiring way—don’t neglect your gifts for the sake of false comfort."
