149 posts tagged “saturn”

Venus square Saturn and Jupiter. Not to mention her 4th/10th house nodes. I tend to think the 4th/10th/Cancer/Capricorn nodal connection is the worst of the bunch, actually (yes, even worse than mine and I'm biased :P). Home vs. family and being forced to switch from one orientation to the other to me seems like a real bitch.

I am also smirking at the swamp remark for the South Node. That's...a bit much.

And how they pay off.

Another Saturn Return story, but much less with the answers and much more with the panic so far.

Again from reading Rolling Stone (though this article isn't online at all), I found an article on Conor Oberst and how he was making musical changes in his life.

"Oberst clearly grappled with the transitional period referenced in that album's liner notes: when "mighty Saturn enters your eighth house"--the late-20's threshold between youth and adulthood, when friendships die and beliefs change. He stopped recording for the label he co-founded, Saddle Creek. He broke up with his longtime girlfriend, singer-songwriter Maria Taylor. (He remains single.) He even decided to retire the name Bright Eyes, his main musical identity since age 18. "It's such a big part of my life," he says. "But it does feel like it needs to stop at some point," which he plans to achieve with one final record. "I'd like to clean it up, lock the door, say goodbye."

After untethering himself from so many things at once, Oberst felt adrift. "I didn't want to go to Omaha, didn't want to go to New York, didn't want to be around anything that I'd known before," he says. "The idea of going to another universe sounded fantastic to me." So last year, Oberst traveled to the Mexican mountainside village of Tepoztlan, in the Valle Mistico, which he first heard about after a tour stop in Mexico City. Known for its UFO sightings and huge Aztec pyramid and as the birthplace of the feathered serpent god, Quetzalcoatl, the place seemed to offer solace and restoration. "It's a magical, magical place," Oberst says. "If you go down to the Pyramid of the Sun, climb that thing and stare out--it's hard not to feel something. To me, that Native American idea that you can see the reflection of everything in nature and in each other seems really true."

Oberst chose this valley to open a new musical chapter in his life. He found an adobe building and had instruments and a special 16-track recorder brought in. "I really wanted this particular machine that M. Ward records on," says Oberst. "It's like this magical, supermellow sound, like a warm old quilt." Then he called some friends: Bright Eyes keyboardist-arranger Nathaniel Walcott, Rilo Kiley drummer Jason Boesel, bassist Macey Taylor, Thrasher photographer-turned-singer-songwriter Nik Freitas and Taylor's friend from Birmingham, Alabama, guiltarist Taylor Hollingsworth. Together in the adobe cabin, this group--soon to be dubbed the Mystic Valley Band--cut the 2008 disc Conor Oberst, his first record since he was 16 not credited to Bright Eyes."

Here. Especially emphasizes marriages that didn't go well, but didn't end.

Nikki Sixx's Saturn Return.

The Eagles.

Soulmate signs (if you're into that sort of thing), and then a few couples for analysis:

Stevie and Lindsay:

"I have found, in my experience as an Astrologer, the two most important factors that indicate a significant relationship are contacts, from one person to the other, that hit one or more of the four angles of a chart: the Ascendant-Descendant axis (1st-7th house cusps, and the horizon line), and the Midheaven-Nadir axis (4th-10th house cusps), as well as the Lunar Nodes, which are considered strong indicators of our soul purpose and karma. I have noticed, in most of my significant relationships, a planet or planets, angles, or nodes will fall on one of my angles, nodes, or planets and sometimes vice versa. And this is totally the case in Lindsey and Stevie's relationship chart.

Lindsey's North Node (16 Aries) is conjunct Stevie's Ascendant (18 Aries). Stevie's North Node (13 Taurus) is conjunct Lindsey's Midheaven (10 Taurus). Stevie's Saturn (planet of karma) falls exactly on Lindsey's Ascendant/Mars/Pluto conjunction (17 Leo).

The way I read it is, they were married in a past life/lives (denoted through the Descendant, IC, and South Node connections), and in this life, they agreed to work it out in front of the world (as the Ascendant, Midheaven and North Nodes indicate). A Taurus Midheaven suggests that this time around Lindsey is gaining self worth by learning to rely on his own resources rather than other people's. An Aries Ascendant suggests that Stevie needed to become her own individual person outside of a relationship, and become a star on her own.

I think they tried to get back together as a couple because of the South Node familiarity, but the universe was prodding them toward their North Nodes and evolutionary growth. I think they separated and lived their own lives and became their own individual people, and now that they accomplished this, they are free to make music together again."

Desi and Lucy:

"Steven Forrest describes a soulmate as somebody who "messes with your soul." I like that. It implies that all of us are going to meet these special people along the way who our going to have a tremendous transformative impact on our foundation (our soul). We grow and evolve because of their presence in our lives. Everybody wants to find their one true soulmate, but even if you are lucky enough to find "the one," I suspect there will still be other people outside that relationship that will have a major soul shaping influence on you as well. Why limit ourselves to just one?

Also I have to add regardless of how beautiful and powerful the astrological connection is it doesn't mean that you are destined to live happily ever after or that your relationship will ever get off the ground in the first place. There is something that is much bigger than astrology that decides that and I think mostly it depends on how dedicated the two people are to making it work. It's only after the universe decides to bring you together and you both consciously decide that you want to be together that the astrology really comes into play. This applies to all kind of relationships not just romantic ones.

The fiery redhead Lucille Ball had an outgoing, expressive Leo Sun with a hard-as-nails Capricorn Moon in the Ascendant. Desi Arnaz was a sensitive Pisces with an equally sensitive and feeling Cancer Moon magnified to the extreme by it's conjunction with Pluto in the Ascendant. Just from those basic astrology observations we can see that these two people had very different natures but luckily opposites attract.

This is clearly shown astrologically by their Ascendants being almost directly opposite to each other. The Descendant and the 7th house in our own horoscope describe what we look for in another person and what we need in a relationship. Lucy has Cancer on the Descendant (conjunct Pluto) and Neptune in the 7th house so she needs emotional warmth, caring and domesticity (Cancer) in her partner and in her relationships with others. We can also expect with Neptune in the 7th that she would be asked to make great sacrifices in her marriage, she may over idealize her partner and look at her partner as a savior or become too much of a help mate to her partner. It's documented that Desi had problems with drugs and alcohol during their marriage and that's a classic Neptune in the 7th house situation.

Desi fit Lucy's 7th house bill perfectly with his Cancer Moon-Ascendant and his Pisces Sun and Mars (deposited by Neptune). Desi has Capricorn on his Descendant suggesting he needs structure and organization in his relationships and he's looking for an authority figure and somebody who will help further his career and social ambitions. Lucy fits his bill with her ambitious and authoritative Capricorn Moon and Ascendant. Their Moons overlay each other's seventh house of marriage, filling their partnership with strong emotions, both negative and positive, as they also provide one another with a great feeling of comfort and familiarity."

Howard and Robin:

"The next soulmate connection we see is that Howard's Nodal axis squares Robin's MC/IC axis. Her deepest roots (IC) and public destiny (MC) are intertwined with Howard's evolutionary journey (Nodal axis). Howard's Moon overlays her 10th house of Career, his emotional needs are in line with her career goals and this is another indication of deep comfort and success in their professional relationship. We see that his Sun and Capricorn planets overlay his 6th house of the work place proper, I noticed that when somebody's Sun falls in my 6th house they want to do things for me (it's a real Virgo feel), so Howard probably likes to serve and take care of Robin and Robin sees Howard as very useful.

In this case Howard and Robin are not lovers, they do not live together, and they don't even socialize that much outside of work. They have, however, spent almost every weekday morning together for over 25 years, and so they are forever linked together in the minds of their fans. That's a really powerful thing and their astrology together shows it."

Perez Hilton and I have one, apparently. Yeah, wouldn't have figured I have anything in common with him, but...

Here's where I see his snarky attitude - Saturn and Neptune hooked up to Mercury and Venus. Neptune isn't mean, but it's imaginative, foggy, deceptive. Saturn can be mean and/or sarcastic when linked to Mercury as here - this is the circuit which feeds his writing style.

Yeah...people would agree with this about me too. I am one snarky biyotch. But without a gossip site.

"The last time Uranus was in Pisces, in the 1920s, public interest skyrocketed in offbeat things like seances, spiritualism, and Theosophy. Given that the modern world is already drenched in New Age stuff, it seemed hard to believe that Uranus in Pisces would make seances more popular this time around. True, shows like Medium and Ghost Whisperer have found their audiences. There are also a lot of shows about paranormal stuff on cable television. So there has been a bit of interest in these sorts of Uranus in Pisces type things over the past 5 or 6 years, at least on TV.

And now that Saturn’s in Virgo, we get a show like The Mentalist, about a former fake psychic and con man who’s turned to crime busting. Saturn in Virgo is the enemy of Uranus in Pisces, and it disapproves of all that mumbo-jumbo stuff. Hence, we get a skeptic on TV. It happens to be the most popular new show on television this year. I suspect that has a great deal more to do with the fetchingly eye-candy nature of the star, Simon Baker, than with the fact that the plot line makes him a skeptic. Still, Saturn in Virgo’s got to be happy to get its day in the court of public television opinion."