101 posts tagged “saturn”
So, I got to meet a local celebrity from my hometown the other day. It was great fun- he's known for having the blingiest house at Christmas you have ever seen, and I got to tour the house. Huzzah!
So as I'm reading his website later, he happened to mention his birthday (the day before mine! Wow, I know a lot of April 23rd birthdays), AND the place of birth and time!
Yeah, I had to look.
He's a double Taurus (shopping, shopping), with a Sag moon (like me, hah), and URANUS RISING! That just cracked me up big time. He's in a very hierarchical profession/religion, but has the big ol' Sign of the Weirdo right front and center. With a north node in Leo (flashy!) in the fourth house...yes, he has a flashy house. (Interestingly enough, Chiron is conjunct the NN. I wonder what that means to him to do a flashy house with that aspect.) He's also a Venus Saturn person...a Catholic deacon sworn to celibacy.
Amusingly enough, my mother told him the next day that I'd seen we had nearby birthdays and he was all, "Taurus! Stubborn, likes to shop..." Believe me, if you've seen his house, you KNOW that. He must be really fun to go shopping with. Huh, I should meet the man more often. :)
Well, I got into the conference to talk about astrology! Huzzah!
The topic is going to be Saturn/personal planet connections, your personality, with some synastry thrown in. Basically, Sun/Saturn, Moon/Saturn, Mars/Saturn and Venus/Saturn. (Mercury/Saturn doesn't seem to mess people up nearly as bad, so I'm skipping that one.) Naturally, I've gone on about the last one quite a bit, but I plan on doing a lot of research, posting notes/links here, etc. Yay, excuse for research!
Right now I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions as to how to channel Mars/Saturn energy if a physical outlet can't be used. I know someone in this situation and ah...let's just say that right now he channels it in a "gets angry at everyone around him" sort of way. He used to be an active guy, but he won't be able to do much beyond walking ever again, so I was kind of at a loss as to how to advise his wife on this. At any rate, I'd like to have some solutions as to how to cope with the Big Four to talk about in my talk.
If anyone has any suggestions as to how they handle theirs, or any suggestions/links/thoughts they have on these aspects, let me know!
Heh. Neith, like me, has a LOT of Saturn shit.
In related news, I'm reading Elsa again and the comments here get interesting. Especially the chick who's tired of Elsa talking about her boyfriend all the time. (To which I say, well, I've been there and done that at times in my life, but it is her blog and she can write what she wants, and she writes about relationships, and what's under her nose right now...so...skip reading for awhile?) But really, here come the Venus Saturn folks...
"Yes, I believe Love is great and it is the highest joy one can experience. Will I have it in any lasting form?
No.
And as a Scorp w/ Cancer Moon and a Cancer Descendent… you can just imagine how I ache for a place to rest my head and call home…and feel safe…and protected… and unconditionally loved.
But alas, I have Saturn opposition Venus, an empty 7th house & my Venus is in Sag.
Apparently the universe doesn’t think I need a stable, lasting relationship. Um, OK. Thanks Universe! Too bad I’m too sensitive to endure this.
It’s brutal. I have intense, very short love affairs that I unconsciously destroy or the Universe destroys for reasons unbeknownst to me.
It’s fate.
And yet, I need love like I need air…but it just slips right through my fingers…
And it’s too painful to keep starting over since I’m apparently doomed due to the Saturn opposition."- "You are not doomed..What you are looking for you just haven’t found
yet…I have always thought saturn venus contacts showed stability..But
stability doen’t come easy and all of us have a different definition of
it.
My version of it is owning my own place that I can alway run home too if things get weird even if its only for a day..IT WASN’T A MAN PROVIDING THAT FOR ME EVEN THOUGH I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT Was..Even when I had that I NEVER FELT SAFE..
You just need to really think about what it is your looking for. You are the only one who can make you feel safe..That really is the truth…"
What makes you worry? Virgo + Mercury conjunct Saturn.
And speaking of fear and Saturn, here's a really kickass piece on Saturn.
"If you want the nitty-gritty on someone, where they live, but prefer not to, you need to take a look at their Saturn points. Saturn in your natal chart, a planet in Capricorn, the house that has Capricorn on the cusp, are the places where we experience fear and loathing. Like a scary scene in a horror movie we hide our faces so we don’t get too freaked out.
Where the Taskmaster holds court is where Daddy didn’t love us enough, where we fear we don’t measure up. Because of the fear factor, it is also the place where we can fail to see important truths about ourselves.
I recently had a conversation with someone about their Saturn. I made a comment about their Saturn qualities, that they were an important resource. “Can you explain that? the person said, “I feel like I’m missing something here.”
Exactly.
Its not as if we don’t get the point, we don’t want to look at the point in the first place. The first messages we receive from Saturn are filled with so much pain we avoid then as much as possible."
From Ask Metafilter:
From Sasstrology:Every Friday at work, feel restless. I'm not content to sit at my desk. I feel the need to walk around, do something, get out of the office. I can't seem to focus on work, or accomplish much throughout the day. My weekends are particularly exciting, but I just have the overwhelming feeling to get out as soon as possible on a Friday afternoon. What can I do to get over this?
I’ve been at my temp job for two weeks now, and I’m going stir-crazy. My responsibilities are Virgo to the extreme, and I can feel the negative aspects of Saturn’s transit through Virgo in full force: the burden of paying attention to detail; the boredom of attending to mundane, repetitive tasks. I want to break free and indulge my creative side (transiting Uranus in Pisces), which I purportedly do through the blog. But to be frank, most of my sasstrological efforts have been put into fixing broken links; posting over 20 entries a week from our various authors; scaling and cropping images. I’ve written just two posts for the new site since it launched last Wednesday. So, this launch has been way more Saturn in Virgo than Uranus in Pisces for me. I’ve had the occasional “ah hah!” moment when I think of a good idea for a post, but mostly I’m just working out kinks on the back end.
The dark side of Saturn is having the joy sucked out of life. I can actually derive pleasure from my Virgo Rising: I love to edit, for example. But recently, most Virgo responsibilities feel like a chore, and I am not savoring the moment, whether I am washing dishes or coding in HTML.
Ideally, Saturn opposite Uranus manifests as the practical application of ingenuity. The Virgo-Pisces polarity brings into it the ability to clearly express one’s imaginative flights. I’d like to think that, with this new site, I am integrating both my Virgo Ascendant and Pisces Sun. But Saturn’s transit through my First House is a heavy presence, and although I have plenty of Uranian flashes, they all need to pass the Saturn test. Can it be implemented? Will doing this increase my bottom line?
Working hard would be so much easier if I did not feel a simultaneous need to be free and do my own thing. But that’s precisely what this Saturn-Uranus opposition is about. Ideally, I’d work hard only doing my own thing – and running Sasstrology is part of how I plan to accomplish that. But now I have to go back to my tunnel and keep digging until the light breaks through.
As for me, I am trying to work on my NaNo novel right now and it is like dredging through sludge. My characters have a problem they don't know how to solve ("how do you stop an accelerating man?"), the answer is something I did NOT figure out before writing. I really don't know what to say or how to do it, so I am piddling about for the last two days, falling behind in word count and all I can have them do is have a shit-shooting brainstorming session. I am attempting to look up the science and not finding much I can apply to my situation. It is very literally a case of PRACTICALITY MUST BE ENFORCED...
Argh.
Well, maybe it's all Pluto's fault.
Well, this is cheering, for what it is:
Oh it's such fun how Venus squares BOTH Saturn and Uranus on Monday, sort of helping to personalise the whole Saturn Vs Uranus opposition via our own relationships...
In case it helps to imagine these inner archetypes facing off - Saturn is the Sage & Uranus is the Sacred Clown. Saturn is the Status Quo and Uranus is "the status wot?" iconoclast, genuinely amazed that anyone would even give a f**k. Saturn is your sometimes quite helpful inhibitions. Uranus is audaciously creative. Saturn is the quiet satisfaction of having gotten your taxes done. Uranus is the joy of a sudden hare-brained bolt of brilliance from out of nowhere.
Saturnine relationships are often duos who do well at work together, quiet and stable, getting off on the mutual reliance, sense of safety and shared opinions. Uranian relationships cause lots of w.t.f? moments from friends, if not actual tut-tutting. They're unconventional, growth stimulating & ludicrously good fun.
Saturn is society standards and expectations. Uranus is individuation & following one's own instincts. Obviously, either principle taken to extremes is awful: The juice-less, dry old voice of outmoded judgements. The total whack-job gibbering in the street. Uranian brilliance built on a foundation of homage paid to Saturn is amazing.
So I'm reading this interview with Kevin Smith and...
I hear ya, bud. I am jealous of those people who are all easy come (har), easy go, easy come again.
"So I started thinking about that and friends doing it -- and one of my favorite topics of discussion with friends is the difference between f**king and making love. Like the people who can just f*ck and move on, and the people like me who, like, once you f*ck somebody, you want to marry them. I've never had a one night stand in my life. First time I came to it, I wound up marrying the chick so it doesn't count. [Jason] Mewes, on the other hand, has f**ked more people than I will ever meet in my entire life. And whenever I talk to him about it, I don't get it -- he's like a one-timer; he hits it and quits it. I don't get it -- if you find a woman goodly enough to f*ck you, why wouldn't you call her the next day and try to do that again? And his view is, 'In your world, there's always someone goodly enough to f*ck. In my world, there's always someone else waiting to get plugged.' And I'm like, wow, what must that be like."
Anyway, this sounded like you-know-what, so I checked. And Kevin has a Venus-Pluto conjunction trine Saturn.
This is one of my favorite articles. It seems to be gone from Mountain Astrologer now, but here's another link.
If I do end up doing the talk at PCon, this is so one of my references.
